The AD797BRZ arrived -> more „dark“-sound, more in the back/laid-back..

so, 😉
finally the AD797BRZ arrived here (all following is under the „premise“ that i´ve got original (or near to) ones and not cheap „crap“)->absolutely more „dark sound“, absolutely more push in the lows/middle-lows..
(as presumed->“the BRZ were the ANZ with all the advantages of an OPA627AU..“,“its like going from digital to vinyl“..)..
absolutely okay, high THD+N, very „exactly“ , very good Op-Amp, but for me absolutely too dark, not soo much presence (at all and in the middle-highs/highs..)..


(but also said: i have got not the time (and fun) at present to get more in-depth with the BRZs)
after replacing them with the ANZs:->thats for me the right direction..
get so a better idea of the „true/right“ sound..(for me)
(i really miss the „brilliance“ of the AD797ANZ (in any case from the ones i have here)(although, as said, i also miss the „push“ in the low/middle-lows))..
but all this depends very much on your other „gear“, speaker, amplifier, room-size, listen-preferences and so on..
so, conclusion:
i will stuck here with the AD797ANZ for now (on the „blue“ ES9038Q2M)(all according to, as said, that i´ve got the original (or near to) OP-Amps..; i would prefer them over the NE5532,LME47920,OPA2134,LME47910,Muses8920,OPA627AU->(in this order)(see this post in the forum->LINK)
but again: it really depends on your personal listen-affections and so on..
in optimizing the ES9038Q2M the next steps will be (without some hw-modding;its too complicated for me at present): connect a -+15V toroidal transformer, buy some (as last op-amp-step) Burson V5/6 and maybe use an AK4137 (see earlier posts)..
and („quelle surprise“): buy finally some new speaker+amplifier 😉

but many greets for now (+ more to come)!! 😉

…coming back to the AK4137 SRC / 22€-27$

so, 😉
in still waiting/searching for the right +-15V toroidal transformer and the right case, i was searching yesterday again at these fabulous diyaudio.com-forum->https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/digital-line-level/314935-es9038q2m-board-347.html and there is still some AK4137-modding „in the work“..
As said in this post before->http://essabre-90xx-rpi.sfb2.com/2018/09/raspi-ak4137-single-hat-for-2-3b-3b-pi-iso2dsd-v7/ the AK4137 is an digital up-sampler/sample-rate-converter (SRC) with such enormous values like: up to 768khz, DR: 186dB !! ● THD+N: -150dB –
„„..The main function of this board is to improve the quality of the Raspberry Pi I2S signal and reduce jitter..“+“And the AK4137 reconstruction clock reduces the Raspberry Pi output signal jitter enhancement.“..

so and as this raspi-hats, „standalone“ boards are meanwhile down to 22€/26$ (Link) respective 23€/27$(Link), u can give it a try..

by that, i have to say that these ES9038Q2M (stock) + some AD797s + raspberry pi (or some xmos-device) already have a superb sound/tune; as posted before i had a Cambridge-Audio-DAC-Magic (150€) here, and it was very well and clean manufactored (Wolfson-chips in it) but it was nevertheless absolutely no comparison to what ESS-chips (ES9038Q2M) are capable of->much better soundstage,3D,positioning,resolution->

Forget about dual Wolfsons, this new unit shows what the ESS Sabre chip is truly capable of..Just fantastically detailed all along the entire frequency range, wide open, huge soundstage and separation, no noticeable coloration, but slightly warm and ultimately spot on timbre. There’s more than sufficient dynamics and air. A very worthy musical experience..

so, back to the theme: i havent got understand it at first right, but with the following pictures its more clear..

 

and so you can select via the K1-K10 jumper/bridges the appropriate sample-rate/DSD-PCM-options, like with with the different filter-settings on the ES9038Q2M par example..

such a „standalone“ PCB with I2S-in and I2S-out is better for a XMOS-usb-bridge for example (or the expensive versions of these have a spdif-input too (to directly connect to a transporter CD/Blu-ray))..

would be very interesting if these AK4137 have such a great impact on the tune (less jitter and so on) also on 44,1khz/16bit (Redbook)..

another thing is that some user, also in the diyaudio-forum, means that these „upsampling“ by the AK4137 in general or in special this „PCM to DSD“ conversion have enormous advantages noise-wise..the noise will be moved in some inaudible frequencies or better completely removed (through this sigma-delta-extra extrapolation/conversion).

anyway, as we have now different possibilities to „pimp-up“ the already very good „sounding“ ES9038Q2Ms->soldering some other voltage regulators on it (keyword „AVCC“ etc.), use another,cleaner power supply (toroidal +-15V), use other OP-Amps (AD797,Muses) + upsample/reduce jitter with the AK4137, we must now see whats the best cost-performance relation..

so, back to the top, these 22€ for some AK4137 could be also a very good alternative but as i had yet not such a hat here, i unfortunately cant say anything to the benefits..

(if anybody has some experiences with the AK4137 and with a ES9038Q2M please share your experiences here in the comment-section !!)

many greets for now !! 😉 

 

Op-Amps: Burson V5/V6 – AD797BRZ / ES9038Pro with Burson V5 / Gustard H-10 with V6

so, 😉
after i´ve re-checked my Op-Amp-„collection“ 😉 (in testing them on an ES9038Q2M) and reading a lot of op-amp reviews again, i´ve ordered a few days ago some AD797BR(Z) (as described in some posts before)..

The „B„-line has a stricter factory-selection/-fabrication and is mainly considered as the best AD797 for audio..
by that, curiously, i got the most the site-/page-visits here op-amp-wise, means the main interest is also in the op-amp-section/part/reviews..
so i can/will hopefully test them in a few weeks and the next step (op-amp-wise) would be the „Burson V5/-6″-line..


was also clear, as said in the earliest posts..but they cost around 40-50$ (pair)..
(the third set of pictures here are some Burson V5 on an ES9038Pro->https://hallmanlabs.com/2018/01/04/pictures-of-es9038pro-dac-w-burson-audio-v5-opa-and-orange-amplifications-discrete-design/)

some good toroidal transformer (+-15V) cost also about 30-40$ (min.) and so i/u have to check out which will bring the best „tone/sound“-enhancement (or both of course)..

(Link-Aliexpress or from Audiophonics or something)
„Webcontrol“-ESP32-wise its still in development but primary i think i want now to search for the right case, transformer..
many greets from here for now 😉
(some pics of pc/-hifigear with Burson´s + also a pic from a Gustard H-10 with V6s)

The OPA627AU arrived – very „warm“- not so much „digital-room/-soundstage“/ Volumio now at V2.502 / dimdim.gr

so 😉 ,
finally the OPA627AU (as dual on one DIP-8) arrived..
and indeed, absolutely more „analogue/tube-sound“ (in comparison to the AD797ANZ + LME47910-20s) here..
very „warm“, but with a lot of „body“, more „natural“, not so digitally „harsh“ as the AD797ANZ (or the LME47910 of course) by example..


better for high-volumes->thought first „more right/true“->more hi-fi..(but also maybe a little bit „fatiguing/boring“ due to the analogue „timbre“)
not so much „digitally room/3D“ what i liked the most on the ES Sabre-Chips; very „sweet“..
The OPA627AU and the AD797ANZ are absolutely on a very similar „level“; u absolutely dont go wrong in using the OPA627AU..
but for me, i think i stuck with the AD797ANZ; more „room/clinical“, but thats really an absolutely personal impression/affection/taste..)
i think the speciality on these Sabre-Chips is this digitally room/3D-feeling + also with the great soundstage..
so i stay, as said, with the AD797ANZ (all on this „Blue“ ES9038Q2M; the „Green“ have a slightly different characteristic as mentioned in an earlier post..)
(Update 2hrs later: i will definitively stuck with the AD797ANZ; for me absolutely the better choice !!)

by that Volumio is now at V2.502, some minor bugfixes + Pi Kernel-bump to 4.14.71; couldnt determine any differences in the overall tune..


by that i want to suggest/introduce you to http://www.dimdim.gr again..
absolutely great site; inventor of the famous „Hifiduino-project“; a lot of very interesting infos/tips there; take a look over there !!


more to come !! 😉

HW-Volume pinlayout – ES9038Q2M + OPA627AU/AD827

so, (another one today) 😉
found by chance a picture of the pin-assignment for the HW-Volume-control on an ES9038Q2M (its from the Audiophonics-site->Link..)(„we“ knew it, but so its much „clearer“) 

by that there´s also a wonderful picture from an combined Raspi/ES9038Q2M (its from the diyaudio-forum; hope i can use it here, if not, please e-mail)->Link

(i´m lately thinking also about to include some raspi directly in such a DAC too, because (as said and also in testing here) on a raspi (over I2S) u have an absolutely superior sound comparing to any XMOS-USB-device (over PC by example)->see this post too->http://essabre-90xx-rpi.sfb2.com/2018/05/moode-volumio-on-a-raspberry-pi-vs-samsung-bluray-player-spdif-coax-impressions-src4392-beta-project-2/ and whats all about this site too 😉 ..
third, on some japanese-yahoo-auction-site they also recommend/have the OPA627AU on it; but they use it only in the dual 15V „environment“, they recommend „strong +-15V“ 😉 ..in the case of a single rail 15V they recommend the AD827 (JN) (and they made a special layout for both cases)->https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/q238163678

Op-Amp Diskurs: AD797A – AD797B / OPA627AU + other.. / DIY-Audio

so, 😉
after i´ve finally got the Green ES9038Q2M (see post before) i can continue to „develop/build“ the planned DIY-DAC (according to the main topic of this site->“Audio-introduction“->“..all in favor (in the way) of building „our“ own DIY-DAC !!“ 😉 ..)

and as i said, i´ve got the feel that the AD797ANZ (i had no other AD797 here) is absolutely the best choice on the „Blue“ ES9038Q2M (and from the Op-Amps i´ve got here so far of course) (LME47910,-20,OPA2134,Muses8920, etc..), on the Green they „sounded“ for me a little bit too thin(+harsh)..
guess (it is) because of the different pcb-layouts, other voltage regulators, capacitors and so on; wonderful thread concerning this as posted million times before->https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/digital-line-level/314935-es9038q2m-board-301.html
i´ve just ordered (as planned) some OPA627AU (they should be a little bit „warmer“, but also with the wide soundstage + 3D/spacious/“airy“ attitude) and hope they will fit my personal taste a little bit more (and this is exactly what it is in the high hifi-gear-equipment->from a certain level on its always/depends on your personal taste + affectations/preferences)..
so, by that, as some user said, the the AD797B is the optimimum choice for hi-fi by the AD797s i´ve found by chance a .pdf (datasheet) from original Analog-Devices->Link..



and indeed, the frame-specifications are almost the same but there are some differences..(picture is only a small excerpt)
some user said (also here in the forum->http://essabre-90xx-rpi.sfb2.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=76:
„..Category 5 – complete sound traveling in the clean air“
2x AD797BRZ – this is the op-amp truly deserving the name of the Analog Device. This one is a smoother and fuller sounding version of the AD797. Switching from the ANZ to the BRZ series is like going vinyl instead of digital. Everything is smooth to the moment your music craves for the harsh texture like aggressive violin passages, distorted guitars, or stronger double bass phrases. The readability of the furthest plans is great, without going into image sharpening effect which makes you see the details more but lose the feeling of perspective at the same time. Roughly, it’s like the AD79ANZ with all advantages of the OPA627BP added. The soundstage is nowhere limited and the sound image of whatever possible shape. This is a reference integrated op-amp for me so let me know as soon as you find better, and I will verify it.“
i will test it then, have to buy this AD797BRZ.. 😉 ..
another thing is that i now continue to find a case, look for the right torodial transformer (+15V-0–15V) and so on; Audiophonics has some there->https://www.audiophonics.fr/en/search?search_query=transformer+15v



by that, i´ve found some old „Harman Kardon HD710“ (for maybe using some parts/case of it) and interesting was also the „normal“ CD-Player LCD-displays which had „millions“ of different display-elements (maybe to get some other ideas for „layouting“ your own display)..


(but i will continue to post raspberry-things, audio-distros (software), ESP32-things and so on, no worry)
gr.. 😉

Volumio at V2.457 / Dietpi V.6.16 / mympd / upgraded ES9038Q2M decoder board I2S

so, 😉
after searching today for some new ES9038Q2M-boards/-infos, i´ve found also this „Upgraded version of ES9038Q2M decoder board I2S input OPA1612+AD8397ADRZ“ (it was also mentioned in these diyaudio.com-forum)->Link

it costs only about 42$ (incl.shipping), and interesting is (besides all the disadvantages like the 5V-9Vplug, the only-headphone 3,5mm jack and so on) that they use „OPA1612“ for the AVCC-section and some „AD8397ADRZ“ for the „output“-section..

i´ve googled immediately for „AD8397ADRZ“ and according to this post/article->https://www.head-fi.org/threads/audio-gd-discrete-op-amps-reviewed-opa-earth-opa-moon-opa-sun-v-2.397691/ its only in the „Category 2 – nice but incomplete sound“ 😉  (posted the link+excerpts also in the forum here->Link)

the author there also said, that for him (and thats interesting for me) the AD797BRZ (i have the AD797ANZ here) are the only ones in the „Category 5 – complete sound traveling in the clean air“ 
„..roughly, it’s like the AD79ANZ with all advantages of the OPA627BP added“ and as u know, i just wanted to buy lately an OPA627 (the „Bugatti Veyron“ on the OP-Amps) to „finalize“ my op-amp-experiences..
so i guess i have to check-out these AD797BRZ some time too 😉

another thing is that they are now at Volumio V2.457 (PI Kernel bump to 4.14.69 and some fixes), i´ve tested it immediately with the ES9038Q2M and the „Allo-Katana“-setting, and it was, as said in an earlier post, „massive“ (ES9038Q2M+2*AD797) again !!

 

this time had the chance to test it before with the ES9028Q2M-option (in Volumio) and some minutes before also with the i-sabre-k2m option in Dietpi V6.16..

last time i thought it could also be by the changed footprint/pi-kernel-bump but today i would say the „Allo Katana“-overlay is more specialized on the ES9038Q2M-core->

finally, at present, i must really say that i have the best sound (on all distros) with the newer Volumio (V2.452 and up) + „Allo Katana“-settings on an ES9038Q2M+2*AD797 !! (okay, its really tight between them but Volumio is absolutely easy to handle at present)

DietPi is now at V6.16, i just wanted to set up the new „mympd“-(fork of ympd), ran into trouble, theres a workaround now and its fixed in DietPi V6.17..(„Allo Katana“ works NOT on DietPi (with the ES9038Q2M) but with the „i-sabre-k2m“ overlay i got 32/384..)

more to come, greets for now 😉

 

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