Topping NX4DSD->Thesycon XMOS-USB Driver Skysong/Singxer ES9038Q2M

so, 😉
because i have here really heavy problems in playing anything above 44,1/16bit due to buffer(and/or driver)-problems (on a raspberry the ES9038Q2M works perfectly) on a Skysong (Singxer)-USB-bridge and a ES9038Q2M („Blue“) i came by chance across this Topping NX4DSD..

it has also a XMOS-XU-208 and a ES9038Q2M „onboard“; interesting is the specification:
„16/32bit 44,1-768khz + DSD512 (native)“ and (whats more interesting):
NX4 DSD use costum driver from Thesycon“..
so, and thats the thing here..the „normal“ Singxer USB-Audio Driver 4.36″ does not work here satisfying with a ES9038Q2M..
2 possibilities: we get in future an update for also playing on this ES9038Q2M without problems from Singxer or we can get some custom made Theyscon driver which matches „our“ Skysong-Bridge+the ES9038Q2M..(any help here is really appreciated !!)
i´ve anyway attached here (and in the forum) the original Topping NX4DSD driver+manuals, which were btw. very interesting in setting up JRiver for perfect bitstreaming..(u have to use completely the ASIO-driver/interface..))
the Topping NX4DSD driver/manuals is the version V4.14..->NX4 DSD Manual and Driver V4.14->

ES9038Q2M: just arrived, first impressions..

okay, 😉
today the „Blue“->LINK ES9038Q2M arrived; first impressions:
the pcb is much more light (in weight) than the ones before..

first musical impressions were:
wider soundstage..heavy „lock“-problems with the Skysong-XMOS-USB-bridge (guess its a firmware/driver issue (had to wait for an update or so); i use here right now a Samsung BluRay-player directly via coax), but absolutely more „pop“-tune, by far not so analytic, spacious, also very „flat“, cries really out for a „Muses02“ OP-Amp..
there is absolutely something missing->guess it really needs its 15V..(this one is only with the 12V-plug)(but i could feed it maybe also with 15V->have to check/ask the seller) 
have immediately changed to „Muses02“; which i normally don´t do in fresh, new hifi-gear..(1-2 days „play in“-time)..
the HW-control with a 10k pot was also not so promising as expected..
i didnt test the 7 different filter; maybe the „devil“ is there..
also it could be the pcb (and the soldered components itself); don´t know it at present->more to come..
Conclusion for now (and dont forget, this is „whining on a high level“ 😉 ):
more „pop-sound“ (originally the ES9038Q2M is/was made for handys/portables), not so analytic, spacious, needs apparently its 15V (+/-), cries out for another Op-Amp (Muses02 here), didnt test the filter right know; maybe its also the quality of the pcb/components..)(but that are only the first impressions, can change without notice 😉 )

(Update 2: so, got halfway at least a fairly accurate sound..(its not sooo bad/but for me it still sounds like plate/sheet 😉 )). This ES9038Q2M is very good with a Raspberry (via I2S); no clicks/pops/distortions anymore..very easy !! i use here now DietPi V6.0->tried „sabre-k2m“; didnt work..“hifiberry-dac“+“rpi-dac“ works without any problems (but only up to 24/192; as said, „our old problem“; need modified kernel..)
as said, on a pi now very easy to handle, no clicks/pops etc..sounds very well but not soo „HiFi“ as with the ES9018/28..somehow less distorted/cleaner in a way, but not so transparent/spacious as the „old“-sabres..could be a problem with the pcb/components on it..but for normal user this ES9038Q2M should be enough 😉
(by that for me DietPi V6.0 is at present much better/cleaner than Moode V4..its much „nearer“ to the original recording; with this Dietpi u can fairly begin to work it out/fine tune))

(Update 1: (Win+Skysong USB-bridge)absolute no comparison to my „old“ ES9018K2M+ES9028Q2M->they sound really much better, absolutely more Hifi; dont know what the main reason could be; maybe the pcb+the components; absolut „platy“; sounds like sheet/plate..
(Raspberry I2S Moode 4.0 („hifiberry-dac“)); sounds really better on a raspberry !! absolutely easy to use; no more such horrible clicks/pops changing files/ made for it 😉 ->used the hifiberry-dac „overlay“->absolut no problems up to 192/24bit, but no more (our „old“ problem..) try to use some other overlays meanwhile..
settings->“Audiophonics ES9028 DAC“ works too (in Moode V4->but only up to 192/24) 

Audiophonics: ES9038Q2M on sale (50€) + some techn. description..

so, 😉
for the european „Sabre-Lover“ ;-), has now also our ES9038Q2M „on sale“(50€)..(LINK)
seems its almost identical with our „green-boards“ here;
they have also +15V DC plug on it, so i guess its PCB 1.04 minimum/upwards..

(User „Zek“ (thx a lot!) here from the forum means:“..This board has an additional regulator for a 5V pin and an additional capacitor (in the middle).“(see comments).

by that there are also some pics with more technical details..(and as said, these „solder/unsolder“-thing)

by that, Audiophonics has also a toroidal transformer „Transformer Toric 30VA 2x15V“ (LINK) on sale for only 17,90€ which seems to be ideal for our ES9038Q2M-boards..
(and a wonderful „wiring/installation“-tutorial/pictures for these torodial-transformer->

check it out 😉

ES9038Q2M: New version is out->V1.06 (Green)

so, 😉
because everyone visiting this site is really „on“ new infos to the ES9038Q2M here are some pics and a description of the new „V1.06“-pcb-layout, i would call it the „Green V1.06„..($39$ Ebay/49$-41€ Aliexpress)

they assembled also a DC-plug (here +15V DC) to it.. (to use it you have to short/solder J6 (is left above the plug from this view))
but the default voltage stays at DC +15V 0 -15V and u can still connect it directly to the board->“* It is recommended to use dual DC+-15V power supply to play board best results

the other difference i first saw that the 3pin-header (Volume) moved from „horizontal“ to „vertical“ (or vice versa)..The jumper row is now down to 5->

(maybe some other user can us tell the other differences in future)..
looks very nice 😉

New ES9038Q2M out !! 9-15V plug..(Blue)

so, 😉
came by chance over this !! : (27$/22€)
(NEW: Aliexpress 39,99$/32,70€ incl.shipping->

Voltage: DC 9-15V
PCB Measurements: 76 * 86MM
I2S-pins are reversed: GND, vakant, LRCK, BCLK, DATA
J1 short: coax-input
J2 short: opt (toslink)-input
J1 and J2 not short (open): I2S-input
J3, J4, J5, J6 not short (open), Filter = Apodizing Fast Roll-Off Filter
J3 nicht kurzgeschlossen:
J4 kurz, Filter = Ziegelwandfilter
J5 kurzgeschlossen, Filter = korrigierter minimaler Phasen-Schnell-Roll-Off-Filter
J6 kurzgeschlossen, Filter = Minimum-Phase-Slow-Roll-Off-Filter
J3 Kurzschluss:
J4 kurzgeschlossen, Filter = minimaler Phasen-Schnell-Abrollfilter
J5 kurzgeschlossen, Filter = linearer Phasen-Slow-Roll-Filter
J6 kurzgeschlossen, Filter = linearer Phasen-Fast-Roll-Off-Filter
VOL: 1-2 kurz zum Stummschalten, 2-3 kurz zur maximalen Lautstärke
Kann ein externes einzelnes Potentiometer sein, Drehgriff des Potentiometers zur Überbrückungsrichtung, gefolgt von der entsprechenden Verdrahtung und erhöht die Lautstärke von links nach rechts
(edit it to english later)..

and so, because i had great problems/was not possible to order from TaoBao direct, i got today a free 8$ coupon from it now for the first time and will then report here any info.. 😉

ES9038 Q2M: Driver/audio settings in MoodeV4Beta/on Dietpi..

so, 😉
many thx to „Blackbear“ over at the
and because of min. 80% !! of the visitors here on the blog a searching for ES9038Q2M-related info, here are some results on his „research“:
In MoodeV4Beta on Dietpi he uses the „Audiophonics ES9028Q2M„-audio-settings..(for the ES9038Q2M)

„..Hello, in dietpi i had selected no driver = just left rpi-2835 (I left it without change after installation…), but in moode driver selection i choosed audiophonics 9028q2m, so it is strange that Moode takes control over dietpi driver (now I am thinking about it…) ? but it works, also tried to switch in dietpi config onto i-sabre-2km driver then restart and no sound so then i had to go into moode driver and to select audiophoincs 9028q2m, tehn reboot and it works again…strange..“

greets for now..

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